Opus 1.6 Released

(opus-codec.org)

58 points | by ledoge 15 hours ago

5 comments

  • Pfeil
    8 hours ago
    I use it for my music files and audio books as it is smaller than mp3. In average it was around 1/3 less space used, I think. I do not hear a difference, but just to make sure I usually convert from the highest available format available, often FLAC, to opus using ffmpegs default settings. No regrets so far. Doing this for a few years now.
    • theandrewbailey
      6 hours ago
      I encode parts of my FLAC music collection to 96kbit Opus for the mp3 player that I use in my car, or just walking around. Cars and cities are noisy, and the earbuds I use aren't great, so I'm not concerned too much about the quality I'm leaving on the table, but it's good enough and the space savings are awesome.
  • etyhhgfff
    4 hours ago
    At first it sounded like a downgrade, but upon further investigation it looks fine.
  • thisislife2
    8 hours ago
    Never understood why it didn't get more popular.
    • DiabloD3
      4 hours ago
      Opus is the most used codec on the planet, currently.

      Can't really get more popular than that.

      I think you meant to say, "why didn't it get more popular for _pirates_"? Because pirates are purists and prefer lossless codecs (ie, FLAC), and even when they wish to use lossy, Opus being locked to 48khz (to reduce implementation overhead for low power SoCs) kind of pisses them off, even though Opus's reference impl includes a perceptually lossless resampler (ie, equivalent to SoX VHQ, the gold standard, and better than the one in Speex).

      Examples of users: Discord, Whatsapp, Jitsi, Mumble, Teamspeak, Soundcloud, Vimeo, Youtube (but not Youtube Music), in-game voice chat on both the PS4/5 era PSN network and the Xbone/XSX era Xbox network, the new Switch 2 in-game voice chat, games that use Steam's in-game voice chat (ie, TF2), all browsers (required to impl webm and webrtc), most apps on Android that have their own sound files (incl. base apps in Android itself). Windows and OSX also have native OOTB support for Opus. Some "actual" VoIP platforms use Opus. Some phone calls routed over the LTE phone network use Opus.

      It is also standardized by the IETF as RFC 6716, and most for-audio SoCs support Opus natively as part of their platform SDKs.

      You're not going to find anything more popular than this.

      • HackerThemAll
        3 hours ago
        He's maybe referring to the fact that platforms such as Spotify, Tidal etc. doesn't offer music in Opus format - high quality while conserving bandwidth and storage. Instead they try to win the market using "master" or "lossless" quality, which is pretty much b.s.
    • TurboSkyline
      5 hours ago
      But it is popular! YouTube's preferred format uses opus for most, if not all, videos upload in the last ~5 years (they also offer an AAC option alongside it). Several VoIP services use opus, including Zoom, Discord, FB Messenger, and WhatsApp (until recently). Opus is part of WebRTC and thus implicitly available for audio/video conferencing software that runs in the browser. And if you look up what audio enthusiasts recommend you use to encode your lossless music for smaller file sizes, it's almost always opus!
    • ksec
      6 hours ago
      We have got to the point where we can afford to stream Lossless Audio file already. ( And then lossy re-encoded on the fly to our wireless earphone )

      For higher bitrate 190 - 256 Kbps AAC-LC offers 99.99% compatibility, only losing to MP3 while offering near indistinguishable audio quality all while being patent free.

      Opus does shine in anything lower. I am not even aware of a codec that is as good at 128Kbps to 160Kbps range. The lower end sub 96kbps is also competitive if not the best at certain domain. But for compressing music or pre-recorded audio it is a solved problem or non-issue.

  • zkmon
    10 hours ago
    Good sounding product names are in short supply.

    [EDIT] For downvoters - I didn't mean they took the Anthropic's product name. Time direction doesn't allow that.

  • block_dagger
    12 hours ago
    That name…it’s taken.
    • lifthrasiir
      11 hours ago
      Opus the audio codec massively predates Opus the LLM (2012 vs. 2024).
    • killingtime74
      10 hours ago
      No one owns the English language. If it breaches some trademark that's something else and very specific.